mediagoblin-website/static/irclogs/irc_meeting_2011-09-03.txt

<paroneayea> ****** Meeting logging now! ******
<nyergler> lol
<schendje> gmgbot` has no regard for schendje's feelings  [11:02]
<gmgbot`> schendje: Error: "has" is not a valid command.
<paroneayea> we'll just have to use the copy-pasta route since I don't know
             what I'm doing
<nyergler> gmgbot`: help
<gmgbot`> nyergler: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a
          useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only
          necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
<paroneayea> gmgbot`: commands
<nyergler> awesome
<gmgbot`> paroneayea: Error: "commands" is not a valid command.
<paroneayea> haha
<paroneayea> ok
<nyergler> ok, faking it
<paroneayea> so 
<paroneayea> first of all  [11:03]
<paroneayea> nice, or should I say *amazing* job everyone on this release
<paroneayea> I honestly do think it was our best month yet.  It was certainly
             the month with the most fun screenshots in the press release at
             least
* schendje claps
<paroneayea> so
<paroneayea> everyone pat themselves on the bat and feel good about themselves
             :)  [11:04]
<paroneayea> and then stop so we can continue with the meeting :)
<paroneayea> so!  this next month
<paroneayea> I'm going to ramble for a second then open the floor  [11:05]
<paroneayea> basically we intend to try and get 0.1.0 out this month, and
             http://mediagoblin.com as a real example site next month, so
<paroneayea> we need to wrap things up, though I feel like I've said "wrap
             things up" the last couple of meetings :)
<paroneayea> I wrote out a vague outline of things that I knew I wanted to
             discuss to the list:
<paroneayea>  - Licensing support!  [11:06]
<paroneayea>  - Wrap up 0.0.5 stragglers
<paroneayea>  - RDFa integration
<paroneayea>  - Caching integration
<paroneayea>  - More user experience testing and feedback integration!
<paroneayea>  - A new and updated website look and feel!
<paroneayea>  - Starting to work on multi-media support in the processing
             backend, if there's time?
<paroneayea>  - What else?!
<paroneayea>  - Surely there are things.
<paroneayea>  - ... http://mediagoblin.org/ redesign
<paroneayea> oh
<paroneayea> documentation is surely a thing
<paroneayea> so I don't know where we want to start specifically
<paroneayea> so I say let's do the website first :)  [11:07]
<paroneayea> schendje: ping!  Presumably you're here
<paroneayea> http://bugs.foocorp.net/issues/543 I just wrote this up, which
             includes ascii art mockups of the site
<paroneayea> based on conversations in here last night
<paroneayea> so I guess the big thing is, how do we intend to execute on this
             :)  [11:08]
<paroneayea> I'm opening the floor here btw
<paroneayea> I'm also going to be traveling a bunch for work this month, so I
             think I'll need a lot of help directing this one  [11:09]
<paroneayea> no comments? :)
<wctype_t> are the bills paid? :p  [11:10]
<paroneayea> wctype_t: the bills are paid :)
<paroneayea> for mediagoblin.org at least
<paroneayea> that's to speak nothing of mediagoblin.com ;)  [11:11]
<paroneayea> okay, so no serious comments, so I guess I hope we'll iterate on
             mockups on the ticket and jsut start pushing it forward
<tychoish> in general my preference is for simpler, easier to read websites
           that aren't fussy. I think it's probably better to start with a
           list of what needs to be on mg.org that isn't there... and I'll put
           this in the ticket.
<gullydwarf> Csrf needs attention
<paroneayea> tychoish: ok great, that feedback is appreciated  [11:12]
<paroneayea> gullydwarf: yes, that's true
<paroneayea> though that csrf ticket has turned from being "CSRF ticket" to
             "everything and the kitchen sink security" ticket
<paroneayea> without any action items
<gullydwarf> Don't want to get diaspora*-ed
<nyergler> is the .org site static HTML? it's own python app? (sorry for the
           n00b question)
<paroneayea> nyergler: not a n00b question
<paroneayea> it's pyblosxom :)
<paroneayea> rendering to static HTML  [11:13]
<nyergler> ok, cool
<paroneayea> for ultimate laziness
<paroneayea> I actually wrote up a wiki page on how to mess with it
<schendje> oh, sorry, my client doesn't ping me :(
<paroneayea> http://wiki.mediagoblin.org/Update_the_website
<paroneayea> np schendje :)
<nyergler> (i assume we'll loop back around to CSRF, since that sounds
           important for an 0.1
<nyergler> )
<paroneayea> nyergler: yes let's get to that in a second :)  [11:14]
<paroneayea> schendje: so, transforming my ascii art shittiness into real
             mockups
<paroneayea> iirc school's starting for you so you're getting busy but
<schendje> paroneayea: I think I can handle that :)
<paroneayea> cool, I've been thinking maybe the design could actually be more
             like your original mediagoblin mockups
<paroneayea> still dark themed, similar to what we have, but more assertive
<paroneayea> as it's marketing materials  [11:15]
<paroneayea> cool
<schendje> well we've certainly got a lot more freedom, so that's fun
<paroneayea> look forward to seeing those then :)
<paroneayea> yeah
<paroneayea> great
<schendje> will it be translated, btw?
<schendje> or English only?
<paroneayea> schendje: unfortunately likely not
<paroneayea> we might handle that at a future time
<paroneayea> for now static html that we barely have to maintain is best
<schendje> paroneayea: well for the design that's actually a lot easier ;)
<paroneayea> yeah
<paroneayea> ok :)
<paroneayea> schendje: I'm assigning the ticket to you then 
<schendje> sounds good!  [11:16]
<paroneayea> comments in the ticket from people generally are welcome
<schendje> yeah so I think I'll just keep updating that one
<paroneayea> great
<schendje> and everyone can comment on mockups when they want
<paroneayea> assigned :)
<paroneayea> sounds perfect
<paroneayea> ok!
<paroneayea> so CSRF :)
<paroneayea> gullydwarf: ^^
<gullydwarf> Present
<paroneayea> so honestly I think we should probably split out a new ticket
             that's actually CSRF only since the old one is confusing maybe?
                                                                        [11:17]
<paroneayea> regardless, someone should take the lead on actually acting on
             *csrf* this month.
<nyergler> what's the existing ticket?
<paroneayea> volunteers?  I'd love to see something like the lazy-csrf stuff
             django has
<nyergler> found it, 361
<paroneayea> yes good question
<paroneayea> oh it's not as bad as I remember the ticket being :)  [11:18]
<paroneayea> still a lot of non-csrf-activity :)
<paroneayea> so I haven't used it since it was after I stopped really using
             django but
<paroneayea> I hear https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/contrib/csrf/ is
             really great and easy to use
<nyergler> i think it'll take a bit for me to dig through this, but i'm happy
           to work on CSRF-ness
<paroneayea> nyergler: great!
<gullydwarf> Sweet!
<nyergler> i've done some of it for ye-olde-daye-jobe
<nyergler> and we're dealing with both Django and non-Django there  [11:19]
<paroneayea> I obviously don't want to use django's but just an idea of doing
             something similarly easy
<gullydwarf> Even better
<paroneayea> got it
<paroneayea> great
<paroneayea> nyergler: could you register on the tracker and I'll mark you in
             the hacker group
<paroneayea> then I can assign it to you
<paroneayea> nyergler: thanks :)
<nyergler> i suspect i'll have stupid questions, but i think paroneayea is
           probably used to answering those from me :)
<nyergler> i just registered (nyergler, naturally)
<paroneayea> nyergler: it'll be payback for ~2 years of dumb questions from me
             when you were my boss  [11:20]
<nyergler> i was thinking i was the one asking dumb questions then ;)
<paroneayea> we'll make it even, we were both dumb
<nyergler> sweet
<gullydwarf> K, driving home now
<paroneayea> ok, assigned to you  [11:21]
<tychoish> everyone's dumb. the world goes on.
<paroneayea> gullydwarf: don't IRC an drive! :)
<paroneayea> gullydwarf: we can talk more later if there are things you want
             to follow up on
<paroneayea> okay, so other things
<paroneayea> docs!
<paroneayea> that's a big one
<paroneayea> tychoish: ^^^^
<paroneayea> :)
<paroneayea> unfortunately willkg is not here :(
<paroneayea> I really wanted him to be part of this meeting for that, but
<paroneayea> oh well  [11:22]
<Elrond> Evening!
<paroneayea> tychoish: a pretty clear first action item for the docs is
             homogenizing all the "hacking howto" type pages
<paroneayea> or at leas splitting them up and making them clear
<paroneayea> tychoish: presumably I should write up a ticket on that and
             assign to you?
<paroneayea> hiya Elrond :)  [11:23]
<paroneayea> everyone's favorite elvenlord has joined the party.
<tychoish> those are the pages in the wiki about how to get started with the
           hacking?
<paroneayea> yes
<tychoish> ok. yeah.
<paroneayea> tychoish: there's even an old .rst version of it back in the git
             history :)
<paroneayea> even a version still un-deleted from the site ;)
<Elrond> paroneayea - :-))) Except only few people bow. ;o)  [11:24]
<paroneayea> http://docs.mediagoblin.org/hackinghowto.html
<tychoish> lightweight markup is fungable
<paroneayea> tychoish: great, you want to write up the ticket for that or
             should I?
<paroneayea> tychoish: I also wonder about other things that should be done
             docs-wise.  Are there things you need from me to plow ahead?
<tychoish> is the version in rst different from the ones in the wiki?
<paroneayea> tychoish: the wiki ones have been updated a bit  [11:25]
<tychoish> ok,
<paroneayea> OSX and distro instructions improvements, possibly some other
             stuff
<nyergler> tangential question: if i'm getting started with dev, and find
           things that are out of date, should i edit the wiki? email the
           devel list?
<tychoish> depends on which things, I guess.
<paroneayea> nyergler: editing is good, and pinging on IRC is great
<nyergler> great, thanks
<paroneayea> usually we can coordinate... I always seem to not be far away
             from my desktop :P  [11:26]
<tychoish> if people can tell me what's up and what needs to be changed, I'll
           make tickets.
<tychoish> I'm not always here, but logging happens, email's good too.
<tychoish> my main questions are: 1) how does the docs.mediagoblin get
           published
<paroneayea> tychoish: cronjob :)  [11:27]
<tychoish> the poor man's daemon
<paroneayea> every half hour or so, git pull and sphinx make
<tychoish> awesome.
<paroneayea> yup
<paroneayea> it runs whatever's in master presently
<tychoish> 2. are we still comfortable with docs/ being in the source code
           repo?
<paroneayea> tychoish: I'm comfortable with it, yes  [11:28]
<tychoish> sweet.
<paroneayea> we can consider moving it, but if so let's do it at a later time
             when willkg is also here
<paroneayea> I think it's fine there for now though
<tychoish> of course, I don't mind, but I don't want it to irritate you/other
           people
<tychoish> so just tracking that.
<paroneayea> I'm happy with it where it is.
<paroneayea> is there a 3) ? :)
<tychoish> yeah, just everyone should open tickets and assign them to me for
           documentation bugs, or things that they think needs to be
           documented or better documented.  [11:29]
<Elrond> Is the meeting already over or are we currently at the "docs" topic?
<paroneayea> Elrond: on "docs"
<paroneayea> tychoish: ok, I'll try to review things and send more issues your
             way later today  [11:30]
<paroneayea> and you write up the hacking howto ticket
<paroneayea> sounds good?
<tychoish> until I get more up to speed I kinda need to depend on folks to set
           my agenda :)
<tychoish> yep
<tychoish> sounds good.
<Elrond> Okay, I'll wait for the next topic then. :)
<paroneayea> ok
<tychoish> i'm done. :)
<paroneayea> next topic! :)
<paroneayea> caching
<paroneayea> well this one's on my plate
<paroneayea> Elrond says I should just merge it now without tests ;)
<paroneayea> though honestly we're not far away from that
<paroneayea> it should be done this weekend
<paroneayea> I'm not sure there's more to say about it  [11:31]
<paroneayea> unless people have questions, let's move on
<paroneayea>  - More user experience testing and feedback integration!
<Elrond> paroneayea - IF it doesn't break anything.  That's on the "doesn't
         hurt, might even help. Maybe someone else will write tests.  Or
         someone else will start using it and find issues".
<paroneayea> Elrond: it doesn't break anything
<paroneayea> it just sits on the side  [11:32]
<paroneayea> minding its own business
<paroneayea> twiddling its thumbs
<Elrond> merge it. leave ticket open for tests.
* nyergler wonders what the test coverage is like right now as a whole
<Elrond> next topic.
<paroneayea> nyergler: good question ;)
<paroneayea> nyergler: probably not great
<nyergler> ok, fair enough
<paroneayea> nyergler: we have tests for submission (including evil
             submissions) and auth stuff and most of the components
<paroneayea> config stuff, storage system, etc  [11:33]
<paroneayea> most of the components have test
<nyergler> sounds like a great start
<paroneayea> but not all
<paroneayea> plenty of views don't have tests
<paroneayea> but most of the ones that worry me about evil things happening
<paroneayea> do
<Elrond> I think, test coverage is fine currently.
<paroneayea> it could always be better ;)  [11:34]
<paroneayea> but yeah not bad for now
<Elrond> non user facing things need tests!  And the most important ones have.
<paroneayea> true
<paroneayea> okay
<paroneayea>  - Licensing support!
<Elrond> user facing stuff... is tested by users. ;o)
<paroneayea> So actually I'm prototyping a tool at work-ish about this
<paroneayea> I'd actually like to discuss it with nyergler later more
<paroneayea> I don't know if I'll have time to finish it by this release :(
<paroneayea> but I'll try
<nyergler> this is a tool for license selection?  [11:35]
<paroneayea> nyergler: yes
<paroneayea> we could do it the cheap way for now :)
<Elrond> Does that also include the selection of harmless-ness?
<paroneayea> Elrond: whaa
<nyergler> right -- i was going to ask if we had schema support for license
<Elrond> (good for everyone, not good for children, bad for everyone)
<nyergler> i suspect the answer is "yes" since we're mongo and the answer is
           always yes
<nyergler> :)
<nyergler> Elrond: that seems like a different flag
<paroneayea> nyergler: yeah we just need to add a field to the MediaEntry
             thing that has 'license'  [11:36]
<paroneayea> and have it point at URLs.
<Elrond> nyergler - It is.
<paroneayea> I think generally the solution mlinksva and I have been
             discussing is the value of the license field is actually the URL,
             and maybe somewhere else in the application is info about that
             license based on its url
<nyergler> of course
<nyergler> we could probably get the field into MediaEntry and add static
           support for the core 6  [11:37]
<paroneayea> and the tool I'm talking about is just auto-jsonifying it using
             rdfa profiles
<paroneayea> but yeah
<nyergler> iterate on that for adding support for all variants, etc
<paroneayea> we don't need that tool for 0.1.0 yet
<paroneayea> we could just do it manually
<paroneayea> that makes no sense what I just said without context maybe
<nyergler> :)
<nyergler> is there a ticket for license support?  [11:38]
<paroneayea> nyergler: I don't think so
<paroneayea> nyergler: do you want to write one up maybe?
<paroneayea> :)
<paroneayea> or I can after the meeting.
<paroneayea> and you can comment on it
<nyergler> happy to do it
<paroneayea> great
<paroneayea> I also have as an issue for this meeting
<paroneayea>  - RDFa integration
<paroneayea> and now that nyergler is here I might be not the only
             #mediagoblin participant who cares about that anymore ;)  [11:39]
<Elrond> I would like to add "- database schema (I have some feelings there!)"
         to the end of the topic list, either for public discussion or private
         discussion after the meeting.
<paroneayea> Elrond: is this about non-mongodb support :)
<Elrond> paroneayea - No.
<paroneayea> Elrond: oh, what is it then?
<paroneayea> I'm curious
<nyergler> paroneayea: i definitely care about it, not sure i know enough
           about GMG to comment at the moment  [11:40]
<Elrond> paroneayea - Let's postpone this until that topic is there. :-)
         Don't want to disturb now.
<paroneayea> okay
<paroneayea> nyergler: honestly I care about it but it's pretty low priority
             for 0.1.0 maybe comparatively
<nyergler> i suggest we create a ticket for basics
<paroneayea> nyergler: yeah
<paroneayea> though honestly
<nyergler> title, creator, pub date
<paroneayea> it's pretty easy.
<paroneayea> yup
<nyergler> right
<paroneayea> nyergler: could you make that ticket too ;)  [11:41]
<paroneayea> haha
<nyergler> this is payback, isn't it
<nyergler> sure
<nyergler> ;)
<paroneayea> :)
<paroneayea> great
<paroneayea>  - More user experience testing and feedback integration!
<paroneayea> this is a thing I really care about but none of the people who
             have been working on it are present at this meeting I think.
<paroneayea> but basically we need to turn those UX testing reports into real
             bugs  [11:42]
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<paroneayea> heya gullydwarf_ 
<gullydwarf> Home :)
<paroneayea> horray
<Elrond> paroneayea - I have some private UX testing going on omgmg.*. I will
         try to make bugs from this.
<paroneayea> I just brought up user experience testing
<gullydwarf_> sweet home
<Elrond> Two gullydwarf?  One isn't enough? ;)  [11:43]
<paroneayea> people have started writing things on the wiki, we should turn
             them into bugs, but I'm not sure if there should be a process for
             that
<paroneayea> Elrond: :)
<gullydwarf_> Elrond: :-))
<schendje> we should probably read Jan's paper ;)
* paroneayea wonders if joar is lurking :)
<paroneayea> schendje: yes I think so
<paroneayea> schendje: I'll talk to him about how to go about transforming
             those reports into bugs
<paroneayea> he would know if anyone would.
<schendje> yep
* paroneayea files into orgmode  [11:44]
<paroneayea> ok :)
<paroneayea> will do.
<paroneayea> also, thank you thank you gullydwarf_ for starting omgmg :)
<Elrond> paroneayea - I would at least say: If someone went over one report
         and turned it into bugs, that someone should put links to the bugs at
         the end of the report, so that one can follow, what happens, etc.
<gullydwarf_> paroneayea: you bet
<gullydwarf_> I feel bad about yesterday
<paroneayea> gullydwarf_: don't.
<gullydwarf_> and well compensated for my time, btw :)
<paroneayea> gullydwarf_: it was a good lesson and experience :)  [11:45]
<gullydwarf_> it always sucks when someone has to come in and clean up your
              own mess :/
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<paroneayea> gullydwarf_: don't apologize, thanks for working with me on it
<gullydwarf_> but I am using it as a learning exp, you're correct
<paroneayea> oh hey mlinksva !
<paroneayea> now there are 3 people who care about the rdfa issue :)
<nyergler> wow, i'm feeling all nostalgic
<paroneayea> :)
<Elrond> nyergler - Why do you feel nostalgic?  [11:46]
<paroneayea> mlinksva: was nyergler's boss/coworker, is mine
<paroneayea> 
<nyergler> paroneayea, mlinksva, and I used to work together at CC
<paroneayea> yeah
<Elrond> Ahh.
<paroneayea> and nyergler used to be my boss ;)
<paroneayea> okay  [11:47]
<paroneayea>  - Starting to work on multi-media support in the processing
             backend, if there's time?
<paroneayea> I'm not sure I'll get to this  [11:48]
<paroneayea> probably realistically post-0.1.0
<nyergler> i suggest we punt
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<Elrond> I'd vote for post-0.1 too.
<paroneayea> but we're getting close to an infrastructure that we will support
             that
<paroneayea> yeah
<paroneayea> ok :)
<paroneayea> let's ignore that entirely
<paroneayea> ignoreeed!
<paroneayea> I guess all tehre is to talk about then is 0.0.5 stragglers, or
             anything else people intend to raise!
* paroneayea links http://bugs.foocorp.net/projects/mediagoblin/roadmap
                                                                        [11:49]
<paroneayea> oh, I'd really like to wrap up http://bugs.foocorp.net/issues/296
<paroneayea> because i think it's risky with this not working as-is
<paroneayea> it makes dumb assumptions
<paroneayea> for example, it would totally do the wrong thing on joar's site.
<paroneayea> most of the rest of the things on that list I'm not sure I care
             to comment on  [11:50]
<paroneayea> except that things like tag clouds and etc are maybe not so easy
             to do until we figure out if we want to outsource those tasks to
             celery or mapreduce
* paroneayea hates using mapreduce unless necessary
<paroneayea> in this case, probably necessary
<paroneayea> but I don't think it's a critical 0.0.5 feature  [11:51]
<paroneayea> okay I'm done bringing things up
<paroneayea> anyone else have things?
* gullydwarf_ is looking through the roadmap
<nyergler> is willkg working on 296?
<gmgbot`> *NEWS* issues: Feature #544 (New): Basic content license support
<paroneayea> nyergler: realistically I think no :\
<paroneayea> he's swamped with migrating the bug tracker off of foocorp onto
             redmine
<paroneayea> and a bunch of other things
<paroneayea> we don't have a db dump so he wrote an html scraping library
                                                                        [11:52]
<nyergler> foocorp isn't running redmine? (can't tell what it is)
<nyergler> w.t.f.?
<gullydwarf_> paroneayea: what do you think about me claiming
              http://bugs.foocorp.net/issues/357 for refactoring?
<nyergler> can not wait to hear this story :)
<paroneayea> nyergler: yes we can discuss later ;)
<paroneayea> gullydwarf_: claim it!
<paroneayea> please!  [11:53]
<gullydwarf_> done :)
<paroneayea> ok
<paroneayea> so after I wrap up the caching thing, I wonder if I have major
             things to do this month
<paroneayea> besides a lot of triaging and management and site redesign and
             etc :)  [11:54]
<nyergler> sounds like you have major things to do this month :)
<Elrond> - buy mediagoblin.com
<Elrond> - Make business plan. ;o)
<paroneayea> Elrond: already bought it
<paroneayea> Elrond: for $200 :p
<paroneayea> someone had it.
<Elrond> Oh, yuck.  [11:55]
<paroneayea> Elrond: well anyway, yes, we're working on that also.
<Elrond> - Add features to GMG for mediagoblin.com business plan. ;)
<paroneayea> oh!
<paroneayea> there is one!
<paroneayea> I can't believe I forgot
<paroneayea> captchas.
<schendje> - Gather and sell people's data to advertisers
<paroneayea> or similar.
<gullydwarf_> schendje: :)
<paroneayea> schendje: hehe  [11:56]
<Elrond> schendje - Oh, yeah. ;)
<Elrond> proper freemium plan.
<Elrond> (or whatever that is spelled)
<paroneayea> well
<paroneayea> captchas though for serious.
<paroneayea> I don't know what to do about this
<nyergler> paroneayea: captchas for the signup page?
<paroneayea> yes
<paroneayea> just for registration
<paroneayea> we'll likely need them
<paroneayea> I hate using recaptcha because of the centralization aspect
                                                                        [11:57]
<paroneayea> but honestly all existing captcha solutions suck :\
<paroneayea> for python
<Elrond> recaptcha is easy, I think. It's just a very good mind mood testing
         thing.
<paroneayea> we could probably integrate a "shitty recaptcha hack" into
             mediagoblin for now
<paroneayea> and have an open ticket for non-evil-centralized captchas.
<paroneayea> and maybe make a library for it.  [11:58]
<Elrond> Hmm, yeah.
<nyergler> right -- just make sure you can yank it out once we know what the
           decentralized version is :)
<paroneayea> yeah
<Elrond> Just ask people a math question. ;o)
<paroneayea> Elrond: computers will never solve those!
<Elrond> Like "integrate ln(x) from 1 to x" ;o)
<nyergler> ok, i need to drop off shortly, anything else i can help with at
           the moment, paroneayea?
<gullydwarf_> +1 math, something you can plug into wolfram alpha
<paroneayea> nyergler: I think you've volunteered for plenty, and excited
             about you jumping on board :)  [11:59]
<gullydwarf_> hrm, maybe not
* paulproteus waves to nyergler!
<paroneayea> gullydwarf_: that would be a great solution if we wanted a
             bot-only site
<Elrond> We could also do chemistry questions. ;o)
<paroneayea> keep the humans out!
* gullydwarf_ bye nyergler!
<nyergler> wow, it is old home day on #mediagoblin
<gullydwarf_> paroneayea: indeed
<nyergler> tty soon
<paroneayea> later :)
<paroneayea> okay :)  [12:00]
<paroneayea> looks like we've wrapped up then with some good action items for
             the month :)
<Elrond> :-)
<gullydwarf_> paroneayea: oh  [12:01]
<gullydwarf_> any new thoughts on federation?
<gullydwarf_> we seem to be about where we were last month
<paroneayea> gullydwarf_: my thoughts are "we work out a plan first thing
             after 0.1.0 is out the door" :)
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<Elrond> - db schema:  I feel MediaEntry gets added fields like mad. "Oh, we
         need x, it has something vaguely to do with some MediaEntey, add it
         there."  I don't like that. Lately the processing errors. They're in
         every entry, but only needed *while* processing or for error cases.
<paroneayea> 0.1.0 is supposed to be "the last pre-federation-work" branch
<gullydwarf_> paroneayea: sounds good
<paroneayea> that's one reason why I said this month's should be 0.0.5 instead
             of 0.1.0
<paroneayea> ok :)  [12:02]
<paroneayea> I'm going to go press my french press
<paroneayea> and drink some coffee
<paroneayea> thanks all
<paroneayea> great meeting!
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