#3 Add alternative archive services

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opened 2 years ago by gms · 9 comments

It would be great if you could integrate other archiving services besides archive.org.

I'm mainly interested in also adding archive.is. But perhaps there are other useful ones.

Often archive.is is able to deal better with Web 2.0 heavy pages where archive.org isn't able to archive anything or misses some integral pieces.

An archive.is bookmarklet looks like this:

javascript:void(open('https://archive.today/?run=1&url='+encodeURIComponent(document.location)))

Also, it would be useful if one could select a default archiving destination - including multi-selection (for redundancy). For example, a simple click on the toolbar icon (or Ctrl+.) would then send the page to archive.org + archive.is (if both services were multi-selected as default).

It would be great if you could integrate other archiving services besides archive.org. I'm mainly interested in also adding archive.is. But perhaps there are other useful ones. Often archive.is is able to deal better with Web 2.0 heavy pages where archive.org isn't able to archive anything or misses some integral pieces. An archive.is bookmarklet looks like this: javascript:void(open('https://archive.today/?run=1&url='+encodeURIComponent(document.location))) Also, it would be useful if one could select a default archiving destination - including multi-selection (for redundancy). For example, a simple click on the toolbar icon (or Ctrl+.) would then send the page to archive.org + archive.is (if both services were multi-selected as default).
zPlus commented 2 years ago
Owner

My main interest has always been on archive.org exclusively, but I think I can give this a shot. Would appreciate a list of alternative services.

My main interest has always been on archive.org exclusively, but I think I can give this a shot. Would appreciate a list of alternative services.
Georg Sauthoff commented 2 years ago
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I also know WebCite which doesn't look bad.

This should be a pretty comprehensive list:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_archiving#See_also

On Wikipedia, I regularly see archive.org, archive.is and WebCite used. Wikipedia also has Howto articles for these three (e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Using_WebCite).

I also know WebCite which doesn't look bad. This should be a pretty comprehensive list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_archiving#See_also On Wikipedia, I regularly see archive.org, archive.is and WebCite used. Wikipedia also has Howto articles for these three (e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Using_WebCite).
zPlus commented 2 years ago
Owner

Thanks for the links. I'll try to take a look at this during one of the next Peers Jams.

Thanks for the links. I'll try to take a look at this during one of the next Peers Jams.
zPlus commented 2 years ago
Owner

Looks like WebCite requires an email address to submit archive requests. Can somebody confirm?

The ArchiveToday link https://archive.today/?run=1&url= instead seems to be only for viewing old archived pages, not for submitting a new archive. Is it possible to archive using a GET request?

Looks like WebCite requires an email address to submit archive requests. Can somebody confirm? The ArchiveToday link `https://archive.today/?run=1&url=` instead seems to be only for viewing old archived pages, not for submitting a new archive. Is it possible to archive using a GET request?
zPlus referenced this issue from a commit 2 years ago
zPlus commented 2 years ago
Owner

I've added archive.today. Adding more services should be easy, but they should provide a URL that accepts GET requests (POST seems way more involved).

The updates should be available on addons.mozilla.org sooner or later.

I've added archive.today. Adding more services should be easy, but they should provide a URL that accepts GET requests (POST seems way more involved). The updates should be available on addons.mozilla.org sooner or later.
Georg Sauthoff commented 2 years ago
Poster

Thanks for the quick change!

I can confirm that WebCite requires an email.

An option is to add an email setting to the addons settings and then include it in the WebCite request (such that the user doesn't have to retype it every time). The 'The Archiver' Firefox extension has such a configuration option for WebCite.

Another nice feature would be a config to add custom archiving URLs as it would add flexibility for testing and custom setups. I haven't seen that in other addons, so far.

Thanks for the quick change! I can confirm that WebCite requires an email. An option is to add an email setting to the addons settings and then include it in the WebCite request (such that the user doesn't have to retype it every time). The 'The Archiver' Firefox extension has such a configuration option for WebCite. Another nice feature would be a config to add custom archiving URLs as it would add flexibility for testing and custom setups. I haven't seen that in other addons, so far.
zPlus commented 2 years ago
Owner

The simplest/cleanest option is probably to just use an input text box where users can add whatever URL they want, one per line.

The simplest/cleanest option is probably to just use an input text box where users can add whatever URL they want, one per line.
zPlus commented 2 years ago
Owner

@gms during yesterdays's Peers Jam I've tried to fix this. Please let me know if you think it's a good solution.

@gms during yesterdays's Peers Jam I've tried to fix this. Please let me know if you think it's a good solution.
Georg Sauthoff commented 2 years ago
Poster

I've just installed the current version via addons.mozilla.org and it looks nice and works great.

The possibility to add new target archiving URLs is very flexible and is a good match for my use cases.

Other things I like about this addon:

  • the toolbar button - a good replacement for archive/archive-like bookmarklets (which have some limitations in current Firefox versions)
  • directly reachable archive action in the context-menu, i.e. it isn't hidden in a sub-menu there
  • Ctrl+. shortcut - good replacement for a key-binding I had configured in vimperator

I looked at other archiving addons and they missed one or more of these features.

I've just installed the current version via addons.mozilla.org and it looks nice and works great. The possibility to add new target archiving URLs is very flexible and is a good match for my use cases. Other things I like about this addon: - the toolbar button - a good replacement for archive/archive-like bookmarklets (which have some limitations in current Firefox versions) - directly reachable archive action in the context-menu, i.e. it isn't hidden in a sub-menu there - Ctrl+. shortcut - good replacement for a key-binding I had configured in vimperator I looked at other archiving addons and they missed one or more of these features.
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