#289 Libreboot X200 freezing up

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opened 3 months ago by plantroon · 8 comments

My Libreboot X200 freezes up when I use it for long periods. This did not happen before Libreboot. I have no way of getting any logs, it just freezes up. Sometimes the Caps Lock LED flashes, which I presume is a kernel panic, that I could catch somehow. I have to restart the laptop every 3 days just to keep going, I call this unusable because it happens in the most unfortunate circumstances.

My Libreboot X200 freezes up when I use it for long periods. This did not happen before Libreboot. I have no way of getting any logs, it just freezes up. Sometimes the Caps Lock LED flashes, which I presume is a kernel panic, that I could catch somehow. I have to restart the laptop every 3 days just to keep going, I call this unusable because it happens in the most unfortunate circumstances.
Swift Geek commented 3 months ago
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Are you using suspend? Are you using newest version of libreboot there? What kernel version?

Are you using suspend? Are you using newest version of libreboot there? What kernel version?
plantroon commented 3 months ago
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I am using the newest version (20160907) and I updated the EC firmware prior to flashing.

Happens on any OS (including BSDs), any kernel version, it is libreboot-specific as it did not happen before.

My primary OS is Parabola. I am using suspend, the laptop is in suspend mode most of the time. That's how I imagine any computer should work. Reboots should be only for important kernel updates. Rebooting is unacceptable in 2017.

Basically I am just asking if this is a known problem or if others are experiencing it.

I am using the newest version (20160907) and I updated the EC firmware prior to flashing. Happens on any OS (including BSDs), any kernel version, it is libreboot-specific as it did not happen before. My primary OS is Parabola. I am using suspend, the laptop is in suspend mode most of the time. That's how I imagine any computer should work. Reboots should be only for important kernel updates. Rebooting is unacceptable in 2017. Basically I am just asking if this is a known problem or if others are experiencing it.

I'm pretty sure it's a known problem. My X200 also has sporadic crashes, though their frequency has decreased dramatically after re-flashing the newest version of libreboot. It used to hang as often as you report; after reflashing it hangs about once every couple of weeks.

I urge you to download a fresh copy and re-flash.

Can you get any other details gathered? Microcode? Type and capacity of RAM?

I'm pretty sure it's a known problem. My X200 also has sporadic crashes, though their frequency has decreased _dramatically_ after re-flashing the newest version of libreboot. It used to hang as often as you report; after reflashing it hangs about once every couple of weeks. I urge you to download a fresh copy and re-flash. Can you get any other details gathered? [Microcode](https://libreboot.org/docs/hardware/x200.html#ram_s3_microcode)? Type and capacity of RAM?
Swift Geek commented 3 months ago
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Suspend does not work yet for x200, use hibernate if you need similar functionality which is also more secure

Suspend does not work yet for x200, use hibernate if you need similar functionality which is also more secure
plantroon commented 2 months ago
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So even without suspending for 2 weeks and swapping RAM sticks, it still managed to freeze up on the 3rd or 4th day of the power cycle.

I have 2 Samsung RAM sticks of the same kind: M471B5673EH1-CF8

One more interesting questions, do you use the graphical version of Grub payload or the text mode? I am asking this because I think this has to do with graphics.

So even without suspending for 2 weeks and swapping RAM sticks, it still managed to freeze up on the 3rd or 4th day of the power cycle. I have 2 Samsung RAM sticks of the same kind: M471B5673EH1-CF8 One more interesting questions, do you use the graphical version of Grub payload or the text mode? I am asking this because I think this has to do with graphics.
plantroon commented 1 month ago
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Another update. The laptop went fine for 10 days (that's a record uptime on Libreboot for me). I noticed that this might be related to RAM speeds somehow, as I notice a huge slowdown of graphics on Libreboot as well. I do not know what triggers it. For example, glxgears then goes like 20 FPS. Anyone having these problems on an X200?

Another update. The laptop went fine for 10 days (that's a record uptime on Libreboot for me). I noticed that this might be related to RAM speeds somehow, as I notice a huge slowdown of graphics on Libreboot as well. I do not know what triggers it. For example, glxgears then goes like 20 FPS. Anyone having these problems on an X200?
Swift Geek commented 1 month ago
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Have your ran memtest? (Not including broken test 7, block move)

Graphics issues are related to your distro and chosen drivers

Freeze and kernel panic are very distinct failures here so pay attention to leds that indicate it.

Have your ran memtest? (Not including broken test 7, block move) Graphics issues are related to your distro and chosen drivers Freeze and kernel panic are very distinct failures here so pay attention to leds that indicate it.
plantroon commented 1 month ago
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Is there any way to run memtest on the vesafb version of Libreboot? I also have a gut feeling that using txtmode will make these problems go away.

Is there any way to run memtest on the vesafb version of Libreboot? I also have a gut feeling that using txtmode will make these problems go away.
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